Which forms to Renew Only & Short Shopping Trips?

[brendasue311]

I am a permanent resident of Canada, and very proud to be.

My PR card is fixing to expire in a couple of months and I want to get this done ASAP. This is my first time renewing.

I have well meaning friends and family members (Canadian) trying to help me with renewing my card and now I am confused, some say to fill out everything in the packet, some say I only need certain of those forms.

I don’t want to screw this up.

In the packet of forms for getting, renewing, or replacing a PR card, there are forms that doesn’t apply for me, so I think.

The “Use of a Representative” form for one. I am just renewing my card…I am not using a rep. Do I have to fill that one out? Or do I just put N/A in all of the spots on the form? Then other people told me to just fill out the main form IMM5444E.

So my first question is…Since I am only renewing my card, what forms MUST I fill out for that, and where should I be putting N/A if I need to send in ALL of the forms?

Next, in the spot where you write down each time in the last 5 years have I traveled outside of Canada, all I have for any kind of stay was when my mom died, and I was in the states for her funeral for I think 3 or 4 days. I can’t remember that well.

But there have been maybe 3 or 4 times that I went across the border with my in-laws for lunch and shopping, no longer than 3 or 4 hours each of those times.

Do I have to write those trips down too?

I never kept track of those little trips (which, from now on I will, not that I go over much for that, not much of a shopper). I am worried because I would never be able to remember the dates those shopping trips.

While I am thinking about it, listing of jobs in the form…I don’t have all the exact dates of starting and ending of jobs…what do I do there? I can’t remember dates that well as you can now see.

The first 4 years I was working only at one place so that is easy, then the last half of last year was bad. I held one job that was way over my head for about 8 weeks, worked at a pizza place for a month, Had unemployment for about a month, a fast food place for a month until the job I was trying for opened up and have been working there happily ever since with my husband.

I took a look at the T-4’s that I do have in hand…and did a best guess on the rest, but I don’t think that will be good enough. What can you tell me about that?

Anyhow, thank you so much for this forum! Everyone is so kind and helpful here. I couldn’t find the answers to my questions when I searched, but I know someone out there will definitely give me the correct answers professionally and through personal experience. I really love that.

Warmest,
Brenda Sue

[SettlementOrgMod]

Hello Brenda,

Thank you for sharing your questions with us and for your kind words regarding the Settlement.Org Discussion Forum with us.

Regarding your question,

The “Use of a Representative” form for one. I am just renewing my card…I am not using a rep. Do I have to fill that one out? Or do I just put N/A in all of the spots on the form? Then other people told me to just fill out the main form IMM5444E.

According to several CIC representatives, no, you do not have to send it.

Regarding your second question,

So my first question is…Since I am only renewing my card, what forms MUST I fill out for that, and where should I be putting N/A if I need to send in ALL of the forms?

According to several CIC representatives, the rest of the forms you should complete. According to them, you have the option to complete or not the, Authority to release personal information to a designated individual (PDF, 1.76 MB). It is up to you. However, the remaining forms must be completed.

Regarding your third question,

Next, in the spot where you write down each time in the last 5 years have I traveled outside of Canada, all I have for any kind of stay was when my mom died, and I was in the states for her funeral for I think 3 or 4 days. I can’t remember that well.

But there have been maybe 3 or 4 times that I went across the border with my in-laws for lunch and shopping, no longer than 3 or 4 hours each of those times.

Do I have to write those trips down too?

We are sorry to hear about the death of your mother.

Regarding the brief visits outside Canada, according to the CIC OP 10 Permanent Residency Status Determination Operations Manual,

6.4 Day
Section 27(2) of the Interpretation Act governs the calculation of time limits in federal statutes. Where a statute refers to a number of days between two events (and precedes the number of days with the words “at least”), both the day of occurrence of the first event as well as the day of occurrence of the second event are to be counted in calculating the number of days. For the purpose of calculating the number of days to comply with the residency obligation in IRPA A28(2)(a), a day includes a full day or any part of a day that a permanent resident is physically present in Canada. Any part of a day spent in Canada, or otherwise in compliance with A28(2)(a), is to be counted as one full day for the purpose of calculating the 730 days in a five-year period.

Based on this, according to a CIC representative, they stated that it may not be necessary to include those short trips where you returned the same day.

Regarding your fourth question,

While I am thinking about it, listing of jobs in the form…I don’t have all the exact dates of starting and ending of jobs…what do I do there? I can’t remember dates that well as you can now see.

The first 4 years I was working only at one place so that is easy, then the last half of last year was bad. I held one job that was way over my head for about 8 weeks, worked at a pizza place for a month, Had unemployment for about a month, a fast food place for a month until the job I was trying for opened up and have been working there happily ever since with my husband.

I took a look at the T-4’s that I do have in hand…and did a best guess on the rest, but I don’t think that will be good enough. What can you tell me about that?

According to several CIC representatives, they stated that it is important that you include the dates as best you can. They also suggested that where you are unable to provide definitive dates or information, that you include a letter stating your reasons for being unable to provide definitive information in that case.

We suggest that you may also want to contact the Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) Call Centre to confirm the information we have provided.

I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if you have further questions and if there is any follow up to your question/situation.

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Anna
Settlement.Org Content and Information/Referral Specialist, CIRS
Settlement.Org

[brendasue311]

Thank you so much for helping me. You folks are so nice and helpful, beautiful people here. Warmest, Brenda Sue

[SettlementOrgMod]

You are very welcome and thank you for your kind words.

Please let us know if you have further questions and if there is any follow up to your question/situation.

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Anna
Settlement.Org Content and Information/Referral Specialist, CIRS
Settlement.Org