# Applying for Travel Document - Questions
**URL:** https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885
**Category:** Permanent Resident Status
**Created:** [December 5, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885 "2014-12-05T22:59:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@hidermann](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/hidermann)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/1 "2014-12-05T22:59:33Z")
hello
i want to apply for a travel document, i am a pr card holder
my question: I am not working right now is that a problem when applying for travel document
thanks
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### Author:  [@SettlementOrgMod](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/SettlementOrgMod)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/2 "2014-12-09T15:52:30Z")
Hello,
Thank you for sharing your situation and question with us.
You can find some helpful information in our **[Settlement.Org](http://Settlement.Org)** [I need to leave Canada but do not have my PR card yet. What should I do?](http://settlement.org/sys/faqs_detail.asp?k=PERM_CARD&faq_id=4000504) article.
Here is an excerpt,
> [@](#):
>
> Ideally, you should wait until you have your Permanent Resident (PR) card. If you must leave Canada, you should apply for a Permanent Resident Travel Document from a Canadian visa office abroad as soon as you reach your destination.
>
> The only official documents that permanent residents of Canada can use to travel back to Canada on a commercial carrier (by air, land or sea) are the PR card or a Permanent Resident Travel Document (PRTD), also know as a Travel Document (Permanent Resident Abroad) issued by a Canadian visa office abroad.
>
> If you are entering Canada in a private vehicle, such as your own car, and you do not present your PR card, you may be able to show other immigration documents.
Permanent residents returning to Canada by airplane, boat, train or bus must show a valid permanent resident card (PR card) or travel document before boarding.
You have to be outside Canada in order to apply for a [Permanent Resident Travel Document (PRTD)](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5529ETOC.asp), in order to return to Canada.
It is important to note that the processing time for a [Permanent Resident Travel Document (PRTD)](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5529ETOC.asp) can be at least 7 to 10 working days. This is only an average processing time. There are no guarantees and may not include the time needed for the passport and visa to be returned to you.
It is important to contact the nearest [Visa Office](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/offices/apply-where.asp) directly for some information specific to your situation.
I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if you have further questions and if there is any follow up to your question/situation.
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Anna
[Settlement.Org](http://Settlement.Org) Content and Information/Referral Specialist, CIRS
[Settlement.Org](http://Settlement.Org)
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### Author:  [@hidermann](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/hidermann)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/3 "2014-12-11T23:50:03Z")
thank you for replying… i am in canada right now and my question is:
if i have employment or not does it affect my application for travel document when i apply within canada…
i am pr card holder and i am in canada
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### Author:  [@MelM](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/MelM)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2014, 9:44am UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/4 "2014-12-12T09:44:15Z")
You cannot apply for a travel document from within Canada. You can only apply for a travel document from outside of Canada.
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### Author:  [@PMM](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/PMM)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/5 "2014-12-12T13:33:25Z")
Hi
> [@](#):
>
> thank you for replying… i am in canada right now and my question is:
>
> if i have employment or not does it affect my application for travel document when i apply within canada…
>
> i am pr card holder and i am in canada
1. If you are in Canada, you can’t apply for a TD, it is for a return to Canada.
2. If you have a valid PR card, and you have met your Residency Obligations and outside Canada, you don’t need a TD.
PMM
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### Author:  [@Klaus](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/Klaus)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/6 "2014-12-12T14:57:37Z")
Hi,
I’m not quite sure I understand what you mean. First off, your employment status doesn’t matter in terms of applying for a travel document. What does matter though is that you simply can’t apply for a travel document from within Canada (see Anna’s response).
Also, you mentioned that you are a PR card holder. The purpose of a travel document is to prove that you are a Permanent Resident in case you don’t have a PR card. However, since you have a PR card, why would you want to apply for a travel document? A PR card and a passport is all it takes to return to Canada.
Klaus
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### Author:  [@hidermann](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/hidermann)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/7 "2014-12-14T14:39:05Z")
Thanks all for your feed.
yes i can apply for a travel document or certificate of identity within canada… i am a protected person and I DON’T have a passport.
here is the application link
[http://passport.gc.ca/form/pdfs/pptc190.pdf](http://passport.gc.ca/form/pdfs/pptc190.pdf)
Today i noticed this STATEMENT on the passport website:
"Starting October 27, 2014, Certificates of Identity and Refugee Travel Documents will no longer be printed with a status field on the photo page (page 2). This is already an international standard, International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) compliant and will not impede travel.
It is advised that Permanent Residents travel with their Permanent Resident (PR) cards as Certificates of Identity and Refugee Travel Documents are not considered proof of citizenship."
can you explain the above to me? can i travel with PR CARD WITHOUT HAVING A PASPPORT
FROM CANADA TO ANY COUNTRY?
I thank all of you for you feed and kindness
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### Author:  [@tatang](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/tatang)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2016, 9:28am UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/8 "2016-03-19T09:28:22Z")
Is there any way to expedite the processing of Permanent Resident travel document in manila?
> [@](#):
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for sharing your situation and question with us.
>
> You can find some helpful information in our **[Settlement.Org](http://Settlement.Org)** [I need to leave Canada but do not have my PR card yet. What should I do?](http://settlement.org/sys/faqs_detail.asp?k=PERM_CARD&faq_id=4000504) article.
>
> Here is an excerpt,
>
> > [@](#):
> >
> > Ideally, you should wait until you have your Permanent Resident (PR) card. If you must leave Canada, you should apply for a Permanent Resident Travel Document from a Canadian visa office abroad as soon as you reach your destination.
> >
> > The only official documents that permanent residents of Canada can use to travel back to Canada on a commercial carrier (by air, land or sea) are the PR card or a Permanent Resident Travel Document (PRTD), also know as a Travel Document (Permanent Resident Abroad) issued by a Canadian visa office abroad.
> >
> > If you are entering Canada in a private vehicle, such as your own car, and you do not present your PR card, you may be able to show other immigration documents.
>
> Permanent residents returning to Canada by airplane, boat, train or bus must show a valid permanent resident card (PR card) or travel document before boarding.
>
> You have to be outside Canada in order to apply for a [Permanent Resident Travel Document (PRTD)](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5529ETOC.asp), in order to return to Canada.
>
> It is important to note that the processing time for a [Permanent Resident Travel Document (PRTD)](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5529ETOC.asp) can be at least 7 to 10 working days. This is only an average processing time. There are no guarantees and may not include the time needed for the passport and visa to be returned to you.
>
> It is important to contact the nearest [Visa Office](http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/offices/apply-where.asp) directly for some information specific to your situation.
>
> I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if you have further questions and if there is any follow up to your question/situation.
>
> =====
> Anna
> [Settlement.Org](http://Settlement.Org) Content and Information/Referral Specialist, CIRS
> [Settlement.Org](http://Settlement.Org)
Dennis
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### Author:  [@Yani](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/Yani)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2016, 11:56am UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/9 "2016-03-24T11:56:49Z")
Hi… anyone here applied for prtd in the philippines? I have few questions… TIA
When should i apply?
How long is the processing time?
How long is the validity of the prtd?
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### Author:  [@PMM](https://discourse.settlement.org/u/PMM)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://discourse.settlement.org/t/applying-for-travel-document-questions/1885/10 "2016-04-01T15:01:56Z")
Hi
> [@](#):
>
> Hi… anyone here applied for prtd in the philippines? I have few questions… TIA
> When should i apply?
> How long is the processing time?
> How long is the validity of the prtd?
1/ Processing time is about 10 days to 2 weeks.
2/ The TD is usually valid for 6 months.
PMM